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Yet again Linux is fucking me off royally. A few weeks ago I managed to finally build the driver for my onboard network adapter, and finally got online. Kubuntu went and updated everything, in much the same way Windows does. Except it upgraded the kernel so my network driver no longer works. And in trying to rebuild it, it fails, because it can't access certain code files which probably aren't on my system.

I was going to save the error messages and log into Windows so that I could post a request for help online, but my Windows drives are all formatted with NTFS, which means Kubuntu can't write anything to them. This pretty much makes having Linux useless to me unless I can figure a convenient way of converting the drive from NTFS to FAT32, or installing the slightly dodgy stuff for Ubuntu that makes NTFS writable. What a load of shit. But even then I still won't have a working net connection until I figure all the rest out.

Yes, I'm being a bit unreasonable, because I'm angry. I just wanted to do some coding but now I can't. The sad thing is that some people enjoy this kind of crap. I just want to use the damn computer, not reconstruct it.

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I remember using a tool years ago under Windows when I used to dual boot which would let me read files from ext2 partitions.... I can't remember what it's called but you shouldn't have any problems finding it.

My wireless NIC stopped working when I upgraded Ubuntu once. When I went googling to find out what had happened, there were *loads* of people who had the same problem. Considering how careful those guys are with Debian releases, I can't believe they did something that careless with Ubuntu.

I'd been dealing with annoying problems like this constantly for 8 years when running Linux at home. I'm all MacOSX'd up now though so everything <fanboi> just works </fanboi>

Yeah, there's 'Explore2FS' for Windows. Would be much easier to be able to do things directly to the filesystem though, so I'll probably install the slightly suspect NTFS driver on Kubuntu (and start taking more regular backups on Windows).

It seems than when you upgrade Ubuntu, it seems to silently drop any kernel modules that aren't compatible with the new kernel. I can understand why they do this (not that it helps my reliability - [K]Ubuntu never boots up first time for me after an upgrade), but it's not rocket science to check the modules currently in use and warn the user that some of them are incompatible with the kernel it's about to install.

MacOS X does seem to have most of the best of both worlds, including a non-retarded community. (Some of the answers I've got from Linux people as to why their software does something retarded are, well, retarded. Which I suppose shouldn't surprise me.) But one reason I have Linux on here is because I work on server software that runs on remote Linux servers. It's not 100% platform independent so I really need to check it on the right platform. That's what I was hoping to work on today, until I ran into this week's set of issues.

As well as everything 'just working' it's pretty fucking sexy. Where as Windows and Linux are just ooogleh. Clearly this is a very important consideration when choosing an OS.

*humps her ibook*

Exactly. It cost me an extra 100 quid to get my Macbook in black instead of white, making it even sexier.

I would have done exactly the same if it wasn't for the fact that I bought my ibook a year before the macbooks came out :(

I still haven't paid for this one for another year and half!!

What NIC is it that you're having trouble with? I've tried it on several different machines with a variety of built-in NICs without any trouble at all.

Would it not be easier to buy a £5 Network card from ebay or elsewhere having made sure that it would also "just work", i mean that's less then you spend on sandwiches in two days. Hell i'll buy you one!

It's an Attansic L1. It's just not supported directly by the Linux kernel. There are drivers for it, but it's the hassle of building them and re-building them every time I update that gets annoying. Not to mention the times when it inexplicably looks for headers that I don't have. (And yet on other occasions, compiles without error.)

What do you mean kubuntu cant do anything with a NTFS I never have any problems :S

And technically Kubuntu did not go off and update... you click "YES PLEASE" at some point fool

The problem is that it makes no distinction between a trivial change to a library I know nothing about, and a change that involves wiping out all my 3rd-party hardware drivers! The problem with Linux on the desktop is that people seem to think it's about making it as pretty-looking as a Mac, when in fact it should be about exposing information to the user in a useful way. Hiding complexity from them is no help if it just breaks things silently.

I just want to use the damn computer, not reconstruct it.

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Man, I thought I was better than that. I was wrong.

Ubuntu/Kubuntu are doing well, but it's baby steps at the moment.

If you fancy asking Wolfpaw to shift Abattoir's hosting onto MacOS, I'll get a Mac at home. Until then, I'm stuck with Linux. :)

I think you need another computer, a pure 'nix box for that stuff. Possibly even mounted in a rack case for awesome style points!

A while ago, I suggested to the Girl that I should definitely purchase a server cabinet I found for ONLY $50, and that it would only take up a little bit of space in the bedroom...

But, she made her lips go thin and frowny, and I thought better of it. :(